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  1. Osman Sher
    October 2, 2017 @ 11:55 AM

    I beg to differ with the following statement of this article, “And if you wish to use nonviolence, as Gandhi developed and employed it, for your campaign or liberation struggle,…” To the contrary, Gandhi’s philosophy of nonviolence kept the people of India from waging a liberation struggle and forcing out the British; rather it helped them in prolonging their rule in India. In fact, the British rulers had diverted the focus of the Indian nation and their leaders away from themselves and forced them to indulge in an internecine fighting, a struggle of granting and wresting of privileges and rights once India became independent

    Is it a sane advice not to fight for your rights and not to snatch your belongings from the usurper without giving a fight and using violence, if necessary? The Independence of India, albeit a shattered one, was not the result of any struggle but was an act of grace of the British.

    What has been said above has been attested by all the three parties, Gandhi, Jinnah and the British. One week before the announced date of Independence Gandhi had observed: ‘The rot began with the alien government. We, the inheritors, have not taken the trouble to rectify the errors of the past”. While addressing the Constituent Assembly of Pakistan, on August 11, 1947, Jinnah admitted, “Indeed if you ask me, this (the angularities of the majority and minority communities) has been the biggest hindrance in the way of India to attain its freedom and independence and but for this we would have been free peoples long long ago” The then Secretary State for India, Earl of Listowel says in his Memoire, “Instead of granting the self-government which had been promised since 1917, or insisting on federation, we clung to power under the cloak of respectability lent by protection for the minorities until we were forced to part with it by our own reduced circumstances after five years of war”.

    Osman Sher

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  2. Matiur Rahaman
    October 2, 2017 @ 2:39 PM

    Dear all,

    our organisation work with women i.e women empowerment, education, leadership of women, awareness of sexual harassment  etc. But our organisation is very small. we try for something social activity.

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  3. Soumo Chatterjee
    October 2, 2017 @ 2:50 PM

    Did you research into history before sending out this email? What is non-violence and who is it effective against – did you spend even a second reflecting on this question?

    Did you ever practice non-violence when you are attacked by muggers? Do you preach non-violence when lady is attacked?

    What do you really mean by this email?

    About Rohingyas – do you know that for centuries Rohingyas have been killing and displacing Rakhine locals? Especially the Buddhists – destroying their culture, people, women, children, habitat, homes – everything systematically?
    In one of her many engagements, Nobel Peace laureate Mairead Maguire from Northern Ireland continues her ongoing solidarity work in support of the Rohingya, the ethnic group in Burma currently suffering the genocidal assault of the Burmese government and its military forces, the Tatmadaw. In a recent evocative appeal to their fellow laureate Aung San Suu Kyi, signed by Mairead and four other laureates, they asked ‘How many Rohingya have to die; how many Rohingya women will be raped; how many communities will be razed before you raise your voice in defence of those who have no voice? Your silence is not in line with the vision of “democracy” for your country that you outlined to us, and for which we all supported you over the years.’ See ‘Five Nobel Laureates urge Aung San Suu Kyi to defend Rohingya Muslims’.

    Where were these very sensitive non-violence loving souls when Rohingyas were on the muderous spree? Turned a blind eye it seems…- WHY? Why this one sided justice?

    Very similar to Gandhi’s policy on Bengal during partition…. do your homework – you will know what I am refereing to.

    Stop this charade of non-violence – let us see YOU practice non-violence under threat – when you child is being abused or hit, when your daughter is attacked by goons, when your home and hearth is destroyed…

    If you cant follow it – dont preach it. Wake up.

    With Regards,

    Soumo

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  4. U Samanta
    October 2, 2017 @ 7:14 PM

    People must understand nature and character, and his activities before glorifying him too much. We had enough imposed and bull dosed in our mind about him through the manufactured history by paid historians/agents.

    Nation wants know the Truth: Whether October 2 is a relevant Holiday as Gandhi Jayanti, & Mahandas Karamchand Gandhi is Mahatma, Father of the Nation, Freedom Fighter for India’s Independence, had Respect on Democracy, deserved His Picture in Currency Notes; his Ahimsa or any of his Visionary action and decision benefited India in the past and relevant now and Future, or he deserved Nobel Peace Prize when millions & crores of people lost lives, divided, raped, orphaned – because of him – max mass mobilization in World History?

    Many more points & issues can be outlined. Based on that, should we not demand Removal of his picture from all Indian Currency Notes & him as Father of the Nation, Stop October 2 as holiday & calling him as Mahatma and so on?

    (1) Democracy & MK Gandhi: He never had respect to the democracy and democratic voice of the people of the Nation, though democracy is the foundation of Indian Constitution. He never digested the election of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose with huge majority in 1939. He made democratically trashed and defeated JL Nehru as first PM of India, he never respected democratic opinion and voice against the division of undivided India, and so on.

    (2) Mahatma: A person like him was engaged in sexual activity when his ailing father released last breathes. In the name of experiment of truth (celibacy) he continuously raped women misusing his power and position till the old age 77 years. Can such people be called Mahatma?

    (3) Independence and MK Gandhi: He did not bring Independence to India or for India rather he was an agent of British. He never wanted British leave India soon. He wanted India’s independence should be delayed. He was against those freedom fighters who sacrificed their lives for the mother land, but acted as an agent of British. When British faced problem from freedom fighters like Bhagat Singh, Rajguru, Sukhdev, Chandrasekhar, Masterda, Binoy, Badal, Dinesh, Khudiram etc, British used to call MK Gandhi for help and Gandhi never tried to save their lives. Before 1942 British already decided to hand over power and independence. His 1942 quit India movement was purely drama, and for hijacking the credit of all other freedom fighters who sacrificed their lives for the motherland. Gandhi did not bring independence to India.

    (4) He is not Father of the Nation. If he is the Father of the Nation, then he is the father of broken nation means he was architect of breaking the nation. In fact he is the architect of making the pole of Nehru and Jinnah and for breaking of India.

    (5) His non-violence and Ahimsa is good for cowards and impotent people who cannot protect near and dear ones. The same is against the principle of criminal justice system.

    (6) There was no visionary action or decision he took that benefited India in the past, benefiting now and relevant in the future.

    (7) Nobel Peace Prize: Gandhi found, he had all and full right to decide the fate of the people over the democratic voice and opinion of the nation. Undermining people’ voices (be it for Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose, Sarar Vallabhai Patel or anybody else) he nurtured his beloved boys, Nehru and Jinnah and stretched them to extreme with his British counter parts and commitment, and led division of United/Undivided India. Result was crores of people lost lives, divided, raped, orphaned – because of him – maximum mass mobilization/displacement in the World History happened? People also know what was his roles after division.

    For such a huge loss of lives, to the nation and to the subcontinent the person (MK Gandhi) who is most responsible, and if points 1-6 above are combined, then should we embrace Nobel Peace Prize for him?

    (8) Gandhi Picture in Currency Notes, Statues, Roads: If anyone combines points 1 to 7 above, then he/she must give a thought on whether this person deserve to be placed in every Currency Notes; Statues and Road names at every city.

    Many more points and issues could be outlined. So, should we not demand Removal his picture from all Currency Notes, Stop October 2 as holiday of Gandhi Jayanti, Removal his name as Father of the Nation, Stop calling him as Mahatma?

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  5. Prabha Krishnan
    October 2, 2017 @ 7:17 PM

    Thanks for this wonderful article. Every day in meditation and chanting we seek to share the merits of our practices with every living and non-living creature. Tomorrow we will focus especially on non-violence.

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  6. Alberto
    October 2, 2017 @ 7:25 PM

    What confusion in the mind of whoever wrote this article !!!!! Violence had NOTHING TO DO with war and peace. Human violence is natural and when used professionally, like in a boxing match, for fun, for sport, for entertainment, it is perfectly legal and it harms no one.

    However, people fighting out of jealousy, greed, passion, rape, burglary, etc, are considered criminals and if caught, end up in prison.

    Wars are different. They are decided, concocted and negotiated by politicians who sit in an office and enjoy a good life, whilst millions are forced to fight, to kill and to die. These irresponsible and greedy politicians also cause endless years of suffering to the bereaved families.

    This is NOT natural violence.
    Alberto

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  7. Jeffrey Levett
    October 2, 2017 @ 8:26 PM

    thank you!
    and I reciprocate

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    best wishes Jeffrey Levett Greece

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  8. balayogi venkataraman
    October 4, 2017 @ 12:07 AM

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  9. Prem Mathur
    October 4, 2017 @ 9:27 PM

    Some of the angry responses to the above article are just that, angry! Sweeping biased generalisations, the kind that are ‘natural reactions’ to something we detest, or strongly ‘non-believe’. I understand and sympathise, but do approve of, because they are not well-considered or dispassionate utterances. The statements about Gandhi, the Mahatma’s character are either false or simply misinterpretations of facts; they are experiments of ‘alternative truths’. Some of these statements are slanderous, and should not have been published, I think; I do not know the legalities of these matters!

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  10. S P Mathur
    October 15, 2017 @ 3:08 PM

    All over the world, in a whole lot of fora,talks and write-ups are mere opinions,pathetically devoid of scientific research,and sans use of techno-management tools like DATT(Direct Attention Thinking Tools),SWOT analysis,Risk Analysis(under varied circumstances),and ,of course,System’s approach.

    Anyway,in an evolving civilisation,assessments/evaluations,like many other facets,are going to get better and more scientific from plain intuitive to precision–oriented levels.

    Hopefully,in due course of time,totally dispassionate research,using Martian Angle,is brought to focus for better enlightenment of the mankind.

    Till then,we’ll have to make do with virtually wasteful  opinionated

    discourses/debates.

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